Magnum, I dont think everyone takes small dosages. I just cant stand the statement and thought some people have of “that guys a pro because he abused himself way past what I do”…..that to me is a freaking excuse to explain away “the genetics mom and pop didnt give” that guy
I think there are 400 or so pros and I think the dosages vary greatly with some moderate, some normal and some abuse. I just dont throw those 400 pros into one boat and say “oh they must be all following the pro stack protocol now given to them by the IFBB and all doing the same thing”
I just have a huge problem with people that cannot embrace reality in this sport that some other bodybuilders might be far far ahead of themselves in genetic gifts. And also people that feel “if anyone juices enough” he can get a pro card. Then do it, simple as that. Massmonster32 has been saying that for years that it can be done. Then prove it. Its been 3 years since he started saying it…how close has he gotten?
I cant run like Barry Sanders, I cant jump like Michael Jordan, and there is no amount of drugs that could make me even close…..just like there isnt any amount of drugs for anyone (who isnt of “incredibely favorable genetics”) that is going to allow them to stand next to Coleman onstage and look like a carbon copy of him. Striving to acheive goals is fine in my opinion, having a dream is fine, but living in a fantasy world of “Im going to make it! It only took me 8 years to get to 215 but Im going to be a pro someday!” is sad
CONTINUED: Yes i do think he was natural in that pic–a couple months after he started lifting and 17 years old? Yea
What has changed? First off the genetic pool has changed. Outside of Oliva I cant see many guys back then who could get a pro card today. Haney, Levrone, Wheeler, Coleman, Cormier etc etc etc….80’s onward.
GH usage since the 80’s a definite change.
Amounts of steroids ? Ive heard some pretty abusive things in my time from Don Ross before he died about what the boys were doing back in the day (who told me things in great detail but forbid me to print it) and I think its kind of comical of how Michalik used to brag about the absolutely insane amounts he did … (but now I guess his ego has got the best of him and his memory recounts how he was somewhat mild comparing to the guys today)…..somehow those old “dball like it was candy” statements got erased from his memory banks.
What has changed dramatically IMO? Insulin usage. In far greater amounts than what most people think has been used. Three to Five times a day in large amounts to gain weight. Now some pro’s are now getting far away from insulin because with that size weight gain came a great downside for many. Although for some reason I still have never been able to figure out the “grandfather of insulin usage” who brought insulin usage to the pro ranks has never had that detrimental look happen to his physique.